Australian Legal Recruitment Market Update
August 2, 2011 by Damian
Here is a link to an article written by one of the Directors of Burgess Paluch Legal Recruitment in Australia.
http://www.lawfuel.co.nz/features/show-feature.asp?FeatureID=241
We work very closely with Burgess Paluch so if you are interested in heading ‘across the ditch’, get in touch with us now and we’ll see what we can do for you!
Do Your Due Diligence
June 9, 2011 by Damian
Undertaking a due diligence exercise is something every commercial lawyer does over and over again during their legal career. If the exercise is not conducted properly, then it is likely that the end result will not be the best one for the parties involved in the deal.
As such, you would expect that lawyers would carry the same cautious and thorough approach through to their own careers but I am constantly surprised by how many don’t. I can understand that in some cases and for a variety of reasons, some people just want a job and any old job will do. For example, this could be because of financial considerations or to get out of a particulary unpleasant working environment.
However, when not faced with such pressing circumstances, there is just no excuse for not doing your due diligence. Moving jobs is one of the most important (and stressful) things that you can do and should be treated as such. Your due diligence should start even before you make contact with a recruitment consultant or an employer and it should start with yourself. By that I mean, you should be clear on exactly the reasons that you are looking to leave your current role and have a reasonably clear idea of where you want to go and why. Once you have clarified these things in your head, it is then time to update your CV.
Updating a CV can be a really tedious and time consuming task but it is impossible to overestimate its importance. Taking the time to present yourself in the most favourable light will pay dividends later in the process. If your CV does not accurately reflect your skills and experience, you will almost certainly not end up with the most suitable job available. (Writing an impressive CV is a completely separate post which I will get to one of these days).
The next step in the process is to contact a recruitment consultant or to directly approach an employer. Obviously I would recommend using a recruitment consultant and in the context of this post, one of the reasons why is that we can assist in this due diligence process. However, whichever route that you decide to go down, it is imperative that you find out as much about the various roles that are available as possible and only apply to those roles that you feel that you have a realistic chance of getting and more importantly, those roles that you are interested in getting.
Back when I started recruiting (which was in the last century), finding out this sort of information could be pretty difficult but in this internet age, there are all sorts of ways that you can locate information that will help you make the best decision. There are the obvious ways of looking at a website and partner profiles and doing Google searches. However, what you can also do is to try to find out whether you know anyone currently working at the firm or in similar firm, location or practice area and ask them their thoughts on the firm or the partner. As above, one of the reasons to use a recruitment consultant is that we can do some of this leg work for you.
The final place to do your due diligence is during the interview process. Before attending an interview, have a clear idea of what sort of information you need to know to make a fully informed decision if you are offered the job. This could be issues such as opportunities for advancement, what level of supervision you will be offered as well as the obvious ones about exactly what you will be doing and who you will be reporting to. Treat the interview as a two way process where not only are they trying to elicit relevant information from you but you are trying to do the same thing to them.
If you go through the recruitment process without undertaking the due diligence process above, you will almost certainly not end up in the most suitable job for you. However, if you do approach the process with the caution that it deserves, you will undoubtedly find that you get the job that will keep you interested and challenged for the foreseeable future.
Interviewing Your Recruiter
April 12, 2011 by Damian
I have been doing legal recruitment for about 8 years in total and have interviewed literally hundreds and hundreds of candidates. By coming to see me, all of them, to one degree or another, were putting their future career in my hands which is quite a leap of faith on their behalf. They were trusting me to act professionally, to represent them in the best possible light, to respect their anonymity when necessary and to ensure that they get the best job going in the market. If I failed in any of these respects, this could have had significant ramifications for them in terms of their career.
I take these responsibilities very seriously and am always conscious of the integral role that I play in this (at times) life changing time in someone’s life. I work hard to establish a rapport with a candidate and try to convey an honest, transparent and friendly approach. The reason for this is that the recruitment process can get very involved. When a candidate is going through the process, I will be in contact with them most days in one form or the other and you end up getting to know your candidate very well and vice versa as it progresses. As such, it is absolutely vital that, from a candidate’s perspective, they are 100% comfortable in and confident with my approach.
So after 227 words, where am I going with this? Well, in all of my years of recruitment to date, only two candidates have really taken any time to question me about my background and my approach and asked me why I thought I was the best person to represent them. One of them was a senior finance lawyer on his way to the US who knew he could get a job there himself but did not have the time to pursue it. He sat back in his chair with his hands behind his head and grilled me for the first 20 minutes. Once I convinced him that I knew what I was doing, it became about him and the short story is that we placed him with a top tier US firm, he came back to NZ and is now a partner in a leading NZ firm.
The other time happened this week when a junior lawyer came to see me. I was initially a little surprised by his approach. ‘Can you tell me about your background?’ is usually a question I ask, not the candidate. This was not something that I expected from a recent graduate but ultimately it left me very impressed. This candidate wanted to be sure that I knew what I was doing, that I knew the market, that I could represent him in the way he wanted, that I was going to be transparent and professional and that ultimately, I was going to have his best interests at heart throughout the process.
On reflection, I don’t know why more candidates don’t want me to establish my credentials before I start trying to establish theirs. I have nothing to hide and am happy to answer any questions candidates have about my background (professionally speaking anyway – I really don’t fancy answering questions about my favourite colour or my favourite footballer ever. To save the trouble, the answers are ‘green’ and ‘Roy Keane’).
If you are not happy with my answers or my approach, go to see someone else who you feel more comfortable with but make sure you ask them the same questions. The consultant/candidate relationship is so important that you need to be absolutely convinced that you are dealing with someone who you trust and get on with. If that means me answering some questions at the start of the interview, then I have no problem with that.
So the moral of this piece is before you let your recruiter start interviewing you, feel free to take some time to interview them. Now I’m going to finish this to go do some interview preparation of my own for the candidate coming in to see me at 3pm today just in case she reads this before she comes in and has some questions for me…
Bad News From The UK
October 27, 2010 by Damian
All of the talk in 2009 was about redundancies. Most of the talk in 2010 was, if not about mass hiring, it was at least about consolidation. The accepted wisdom was that the days of making redundancies were now past. However the news that came out of the UK last week highlights in a very stark way that the dark days have not been consigned to a distant memory just yet.
Here is a summary of an article from this week’s ‘The Lawyer’:
Edinburgh-headquartered McGrigors has launched a redundancy consultation with the aim of cutting 40 jobs across its UK network of offices.
The redundancies are expected to affect fee-earners and support staff and will take place across the real estate, banking, projects and procurement, corporate, and risk advisory practice areas. The redundancy consultation, which began on Monday, is expected to conclude on 1 November.
In a statement a firm spokesperson said: “In May 2009 we announced a series of cost-saving measures which we hoped would allow us to ride out the worst of the downturn, protect jobs and safeguard the long-term health of the business in the event of an economic recovery.
“Unfortunately, over the past 12 months it has become increasingly clear that an immediate recovery is not going to emerge, and that we are instead facing a sustained period of market uncertainty – particularly while the effects of the public sector spending review become clear.
“This is not a matter which has been entered into lightly, and we do so only as a last resort. We’ve always endeavoured to do the right thing by our people and believe that everything possible has been done – such as secondments to clients or other departments, sabbaticals, flexible working, pay freezes – for as long as possible, to avoid this measure.”
McGrigors put in a fairly strong performance in the 2009-10 financial year, with turnover increasing 10 per cent to £69m.
McGrigors last cut jobs in May 2008, when it laid off nine real estate fee-earners (30 May 2008).
What is worrying about this redundancy exercise is that it is affecting not only property but also banking and corporate which are areas that were reportedly getting busier as opposed to contracting. Obviously this round of redundancies could be related to factors specific to McGrigors such as the firm still being over-staffed, poor management decisions or poor performance among other things.
Regardless of the reasons why, it should serve as a timely reminder to all NZ lawyers heading to the UK thinking that things are back to normal, they are not.
Getting The Job You Want
October 15, 2010 by Damian
It is common knowledge that, although the legal recruitment market is by no means booming, there are, at last, some good opportunities around to consider. In saying that, there are still some talented and experienced lawyers around so the competition for these roles can still be pretty fierce.
So, the question is – how do I make sure that I get the job as opposed to all of the other applicants?
The very simple answer to that question is to convince the employer that you want THAT job, not just A job.
When it gets to interview time, it is a reasonable assumption to make that after looking at your CV and inviting you to an interview, the employer believes that your technical skills are pretty well suited to the role. So, what they will be looking for during the interview is not only the cultural/team fit (which I talk about in a previous post) but also how much you want to work for them, not for their competitor down the road but for THEM.
This will be judged by factors such as how well you have researched the organisation, how knowledgable you are about the sort of work that they have done both individually and as a firm, how well you align your skills, experience, outlook and approach to theirs etc etc. In addition to this, your interviewing style should convey enthusiasm and passion for the role and the organisation. There is no point in saying all of the right things if you don’t say the right things in the right way.
Interviewers will be looking at all of this and their view on how keen you are on their job will form a huge part of their decision making process. To illustrate the point, it is worthwhile giving two scenarios that I became aware of recently.
Both Candidate A and Candidate B are very well qualified, highly educated, confident and personable lawyers who also happen to be looking for a job.
Candidate A was presented with an in-house opportunity which right from the initial conversation ignited a passion in her to get that job. She researched all she could about the organisation, what they did, what their plans for the future area are, watched online videos and basically left no stone unturned in her preparation. Importantly, she brought enthusiasm and passion into the interview. She wanted THAT job and she convinced the employer of that. Naturally then, she got it.
Candidate B was presented with an opportunity which was also of interest, given the skills and experience that she possessed and she very quickly was invited for interview. From the start, however, that passion and enthusiasm for that role was lacking. She did not prepare adequately for the interview, wasn’t aware of some of the recent work the firm had done and had only given the website a cursory glance. From what I can gather, the feedback from the employer was that she could obviously do the job but she did not convince them that she really wanted their job. She was just looking to get out of her current role. So regardless of the fact that she could do the job, she was not offered it.
The message that I am trying to get across is that, in the current recruitment market where it is still not easy to get a good role, it is absolutely vital that your approach from the start is to concentrate on getting that particular job, not any job, just that one. Prepare like it is the only job you are going for (even if it is not) and when you are in the interview, ensure that you convey the right amount of enthusiasm, energy and passion.
If you do that, there is a good chance that you will be made an offer. If you don’t, there is no chance that you will. In this market, getting an interview and not giving it your best shot is a huge mistake as the next role may not come along for some time.
If you are interested in some interview coaching and want to discuss how best to present yourself in an interview, give me a call, I would be delighted to have a chat to you.
Is Australia the New London?
September 27, 2010 by Damian
After eighteen months or so of pretty stagnant international recruitment and of candidates sitting tight and not investigating overseas opportunities, it seems as if, at last, people are now starting to move offshore.
As everyone knows, the usual route is to do some travelling through south-east Asia on the way to sleeping on some old mate’s floor in Earl’s Court or Clapham, drinking in The Church or The Outback, constantly checking out Easyjet and Ryanair for cheap European weekend getaways and hopefully getting some work with a reputable UK firm between weekends away and following the ABs on their annual end of year tour.
Although there are still a large number of people heading to the UK, I have detected a larger than usual number of people not wanting to go quite so far away and as opposed to drinking in some faux Australian bar in Covent Garden, they are looking to drink in a real Australian bar in Darling Harbour or St Kilda with weekends spent back home in NZ rather than in Estonia or Croatia.
The question that this has raised in my mind is – ‘why are more people now thinking about Australia rather than London’?
I think that there are a variety of answers to this. One of the main ones is simply a perception (and reality) that there are more opportunities for NZ lawyers in Australia than there are in London at the moment. The Australian economy has weathered the financial storm better than most and as such, after some headcount trimming in 08 and 09, most employers appear to be in expansion mode, albeit cautious expansion mode.
Secondly, the Trans Tasman Mutual Recognition Act which means that NZ lawyers can practice in Australia without taking any further exams (and vice versa), makes the transition a lot easier for both candidates and clients. Consequently, employers are much happier to take a NZ qualified on than perhaps any other classification of overseas lawyer and some candidates are delighted that they can effectively just get on a flight and start practising straight away. This development is not a new one but in these days of cautious hiring strategies, taking someone on who does not have any visa or requalification issues is a real advantage to an employer and as the UK tightens up on its visa quota system, it is becoming harder and harder for candidates to get a role over there without a EU passport or ancestry visa.
Another recent development that has, in my view, made Australia a more attractive destination is the arrival of some of the big UK brands into the Australian market. Both Allen & Overy and Norton Rose have entered the playing field (along with constant rumours of other international firms establishing a presence) so it is no longer necessary to go to the other side of the world to secure a role in an international law firm. The threshold to get into these firms is very high, meaning that only very highly skilled and experienced NZ lawyers will make it into one of these firms but their arrival is a signal, if one were needed, that the Australian legal market is one of the most sophisticated markets in the world, staffed by top quality lawyers where you can really grow and develop your career.
As well as the above reasons, I have detected a feeling that the recent economic turmoil has made some people reconsider what is important to them and some have decided that in difficult times, perhaps it is better to be a little closer to home than on the other side of the world. Perhaps, as a result of the GFC, London has lost some of its lustre for people and the ability to move out of NZ but be only a three or four hour flight away is more of a draw card than warm beer, dodgy pies and grey skies.
A stint in a law firm in London is always going to be on a lot of young lawyer’s ‘to do’ list but at the moment, there are more and more people thinking that a stint in a leading Australian law firm is as attractive, if not more so, than a move to London. Whether this trend will continue is anyone’s guess but my view is that as the Australian market becomes more internationally focussed, it is now a genuine alternative to the UK OE and one very worthwhile investigating.
If you do want to have a chat about opportunities in Australia, please get in touch. I would be delighted to talk to you about it.
Beauty Is In The Eye Of The Beholder
September 3, 2010 by Damian
Sorry – it has been a long time since my last blog but just in case anyone is interested, the reason is that there has been a very recent and delightful addition to the Hanna family which has taken up quite a lot of my and more of my wife’s time!
Anyway back to recruitment. Recently, I have been working with two candidates whose individual experiences, I think, highlight the unpredictability of the job seeking process and how regardless of how good your experience is, the intangible ‘team fit’ can be the most important criteria of all.
Without going into too much detail, these two candidates – Candidate A and Candidate B – have very similar backgrounds. They have roughly the same amount of pqe, come from comparable firms, have experience in broadly similar areas and have the same reason for wanting to move roles.
Luckily for them, I had two good roles for them to consider and both decided to apply for both roles. Based on their CVs, both managed to secure first interviews with both firms and here is where things started to get interesting.
With Firm X, both candidates interviewed with the same people but came out with completely different feedback. Candidate A found the partners to be really warm and friendly, Candidate B thought that they were a little standoffish and distant. Candidate A really liked the sound of the work and Candidate B wasn’t sold at all. Candidate A wanted to progress and Candidate B did not really care whether they made it through or not.
The feedback from the firm mirrored the candidates’ feedback. They really liked Candidate A. They commented on his pleasant and engaging personality and thought that he would be a great addition to the team and moved him through to 2nd interview. The feedback on Candidate B was positive but in the end, it was felt that the candidate just wasn’t a ‘good fit’ for the team and they decided to end their interest there.
On to Firm Y and the situation was almost completely the reverse. Candidate B was much happier with the interview than Candidate A and Candidate B made it through to 2nd interview and Candidate A was not taken any futher, again for reasons of ‘team fit’.
So in the end, the result for both candidates was a positive one in that both managed to secure the job that they wanted over one that they were not so keen on. The question is, given that both candidates were so similar and both interviewed with the same people, why the divergence of opinion from both candidate and client on whether to hire them or not?
The answer to this question is easy to state but very difficult to elaborate on. The answer is that certain people warm to particular people more than others. There is a ‘connection’, a ‘click’, an instant rapport that is struck up with some people and not with others. If this connection or click happens in an interview, you invariably know it and you come out feeling confident and keen to progress. It is equally as noticeable if it is absent which leads one to think more negatively about the role and the employer – a feeling which is almost always felt by the interviewers as well.
What this ‘click’ or ‘connection’ is, I do not know but I do know that it cannot be manufactured or faked. All the interview preparation in the world is not going to matter if that connection is not established. Similarly, some candidates whose experience may not be that strong ‘get over the line’ because the interviewers really liked them and thought that they would be a ‘good fit’. If asked to quantify what a ‘good fit’ actually was, most employers would not be able to give more of an answer than – ‘it’s just a gut feeling that I have’.
The upshot of all this is that no matter how good your experience is, how well you prepare for an interview, the reality is that you will not get every job that you apply for. This is not because of something that you have any control over. It is just because some people get on better with particular people than others do. However, what this also means is that if you miss out on one opportunity because of a lack of a ‘good team fit’, you will almost certainly get the next one for exactly the same reason!
As the situation with the two candidates above highlights, beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder as what one interviewer likes, another may not. The key is to keep searching until you come across the organisation that is going to see and appreciate your inner beauty over someone elses!
Don’t Believe All That You Read (Apart From What Is In This Blog)
July 13, 2010 by Damian
There is a well worn adage that you shouldn’t believe all that you read. However, as the legal press is pretty conservative, I, like most people, generally take most of what I read on face value.
People read these industry magazines to get an informed view of current events and from a recruitment point of view, to get a steer on trends and movements within the job market. As such, when people read an article commenting on the state of the job market, the message that the article conveys will permeate into that marketplace and create among the readers a perception of what the reality is.
However, when I read this article in the Australian Lawyers Weekly, it reminded me of the dangers of doing such a thing and of the responsibility that people in our industry have to give a realistic view of what the market looks like.
www.boxbreakers.com.au/News/Now-what-.aspx
The majority of this article is in fact a very informative discussion about whether lawyers who have had their pay frozen for 12 months should expect a pay rise to reflect that. There is also some very helpful comment about the dangers of jumping out of one’s current role on the basis of a minimal pay rise.
However, one of the commentators takes the discussion into a completely different realm when he states:
‘It’s an amazing market. Absolutely amazing. For a candidate it’s the most buoyant market I have ever seen.”
I have to say that I found this comment to be ‘amazing’. To make comments like the one above, in my view, gives job seekers a completely unrealistic view of their chances and is counterproductive. Any candidate reading those comments will think that it is now easy to get a job and in the event that they don’t, they will be wondering what is wrong with them.
“It’s the most buoyant market ever and I can’t get a job – what is wrong with me?”
I understand the hypocrisy of commenting on someone else’s opinion with my own. I am also aware that this article relates to the Australian rather than NZ market. However, I work closely with an agency based in Australia and the message that they convey to me is a lot different to the one above. Yes, things are better; yes, firms are hiring; yes, if you have a strong background, you should be able to get a job but according to them, it is not an ‘amazing market’, it is not a ‘buoyant market’ and to give people the impression that it is is a dangerous message to send.
Are We At A Crossroads?
June 17, 2010 by Damian
One phrase that keeps cropping up when I am talking to clients and candidates at the moment is that it is an ‘interesting time’ in the legal recruitment market. What is happening in the recruitment markets is always ‘interesting’ because it is a good barometer as to the overall health of the economy. In other words, if employers are looking for staff, things must be going pretty well.
Over the vast majority of the 8 years that I have been in recruitment, it is been reasonably easy to discern trends and subsequently give informed and accurate advice and information on what the status of the current job market is. What makes it especially ‘interesting’ at the moment is that no real trends are emerging.
The very general perception is that the market is improving and that is undoubtedly true, thank goodness, but we have to remember that we are coming off the historically low base of the last 18 months or so.
So, are there more jobs around? Yes there are but if you look a little closer, there are still not that many. In private practice, the majority of the ‘big firms’ are still recruiting very selectively, the mid-tier firms do not seem to be recruiting much either and the small firms are mostly still trying to keep the doors open as opposed to taking on new staff. Some firms have a ‘watching brief’ for suitable candidates (which is a good sign) but when it is a ‘watching brief’, the candidates need to be really, really good to be hired.
However, if one took a look at the amount of roles in the public sector, you would be surprised with the amount of opportunities available. Similarly, the number of in-house vacancies has definitely increased in the last 4-6 months. Why this is when the general talk is of cost cutting in the public sector and headcount freezes in the corporate world is an article all of its own so I will dwell no further here apart from to say that for candidates looking for a new role, it would be foolish to rule out the public and in-house sectors at this stage.
So, if we can take it that there are still not a huge amount of roles around, can we take it that there are hundreds of hungry job seekers going after every role? Again, for some roles, ‘yes’ and for others ‘no’. To give an example, a very well known public sector legal team advertised and got nearly 100 applicants for the role. (That is what you get when the job spec can apply to nearly everyone who has a commercial background). However, a very reputable financial institution have been looking for an intermediate solicitor for a number of months now and have not been able to fill the role despite advertising very heavily. Similarly there is a property role in Auckland that the client just cannot fill, despite the perception that there would be loads of property lawyers desperate to get out of their current roles due to lack of work.
So are people going overseas now? Again, yes and no. Some people who have put their OE off for 12-18 months have just decided to pack it all in and take their chances offshore. However, it seems like there is a large group of lawyers who have decided not to move offshore at the moment and are looking to progress their career here and travel offshore during extended holidays or have put it off until a lot later in their career. As such, the trend that, for years, nearly all Kiwi lawyers with 2 years experience will leave to go offshore is just not apparent at the moment.
Clients are also displaying some very interesting behaviour from a recruitment standpoint. Some clients, who historically shied away from using recruitment agencies, are now happy to avail of our services. These clients have taken the view that even though there may be a lot of candidates around, those good candidates are still really hard to find. Others have made the call to keep all of their recruitment in-house, presumably in order to save agency fees, as opposed to ensuring that they get the best candidate around. (Don’t they realise that some of the best candidates are too busy to check job-boards and look at legal magazines and enrol with people like us to do that for them?) What these employers will do when the market inevitably tightens up further will be very, very interesting.
So, all in all, the only trend that I can see is that there is no real trend around. The recruitment market is in a real state of flux with an obvious disconnect between the perception and the reality of its health. Hopefully very soon a trend will emerge where good candidates will find good jobs – that is the sign of a healthy and ‘normal’ recruitment market. I, for one, will be happy to leave these ‘interesting’ times behind.
UK firms remain wary despite elevated recruitment figures
April 23, 2010 by Damian
The title of this post is the title of an article from the latest edition of the UK’s The Lawyer magazine which you can read here – http://www.thelawyer.com/1004112.article.
The tenor of this article sums up for me exactly the uncertainty in the recruitment market at present and the influence that the press has on people’s perception of the state of that market.
What I mean by this is that the first sentence of this article states:
“The UK’s top 25 firms are back in recruitment mode, with an estimated 2,133 people having been brought on board to UK offices in 2009-10 alone.”
I am sure that everyone reading this would think – ‘brilliant – now it’s time to dust off the CV because I’m outta here’.
Well ‘no’ I’m afraid. The next sentence states:
‘However, the total number of hires is still exceeded by the 2,370 people firms made redundant during the downturn, suggesting management caution has far from subsided.”
The article goes on to state that :
‘The highest numbers of hires were made by two firms with large volume businesses, Irwin Mitchell and Eversheds, which recruited 414 and 293 people respectively’. This sounds positive for your chances at Irwin Mitchell and Eversheds – yes? Well ‘no’, the next sentence states:
“Since late 2007 Irwin Mitchell has laid off 16, while Eversheds parted company with 735.’
So the question remains – are firms back in recruitment mode or not?
This article does not answer the question and shies away from coming to a conclusion, finishing off instead with a very bland non sequitur from the Chief Executive of DLA Piper, (incidentally a firm who made more redundancies than most). So what was the point of the article? To be honest, I am not sure as it seems to give hope to people but then tempers it with caveat upon caveat.
What this article highlights to me is that no-one knows what will happen in the coming months, not even the esteemed journos at The Lawyer. The market is still going through a lot of uncertainty and how long it will take for this uncertainty to be removed, is anyone’s guess.
As for whether I, sitting down here in NZ, am going to come to a conclusion as to the state of the recruitment market in London, well if the journos at The Lawyer aren’t going to, then neither will I!
However, if you are thinking about making the move to London or elsewhere, please get in touch with us. We would love to have a chat to you about your background and what we can do to help you over there.

